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brosil 09-18-2009 02:00 PM

For the tiny house fans
 
http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/...d-transformed/

I ran across this.

Tomsawyer 09-19-2009 12:44 AM

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Thought this was going to be a thread about tiny fans!


Now that would have been neat!

<SLV> 09-19-2009 12:54 AM

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I'm building a 688 square foot house for my family of six right now. I've read absolutely everything I can get my hands on regarding the tiny house movement. Unfortunately, the entire movement seems geared toward singles and couples. I've found nothing on accomodating children in a small house.

Publico, Pro Se 09-19-2009 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1929037)
I've found nothing on accomodating children in a small house.

That's why God gave parents the ability to say, "It's such a nice day outside today, go out and play." ... (And while they do you and the Mrs. ....)

nadcarves 09-23-2009 02:23 PM

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If you look at house sizes,in the past, energy was the size factor. What you could afford,or were able to cut, determined the size of your house. If the grid goes down, how much of your present house could you maintain in something like an Ohio Winter? In the Dakotas, I saw houses that were under 200 square feet.Wood heated.. Gives a whole new meaning to cabin fever.

George Spelvin 09-24-2009 08:39 AM

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http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/2007/11...tion-mark.html

Family of 4 living in this one...

Canadian-guerilla 09-24-2009 09:06 AM

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small shelters are the way to go :ok:

mainly because of heating in the winter
plus one may not accumulate as much STUFF because of size limitations

LESS IS MORE



almost everytime i go to Home Depot or similar
i stop at the outdoor tool sheds and wonder . . . . .

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...7b82e0_400.jpg http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...b28cee_400.jpg

<SLV> 09-24-2009 09:21 AM

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The shed is a cool idea if you are single. I got a two car garage for free on Craigslist that I am turning into a house. It is 22' wide and 24' deep (plus a lean-to on one side). It is about as small as I can sanely go with a wife and four kids.

Lucky225 09-25-2009 06:24 PM

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SLV that would be a good thread to start!

<SLV> 09-25-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky225 (Post 1940332)
SLV that would be a good thread to start!

The garage will be arriving on my property in a few weeks. I'll start a thread then.

StackerKen 09-25-2009 07:19 PM

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I could live in a 12'x12' shed.
I lived on a 25ft sailboat for years....
My wife on the other hand, Has way to much stuff(artist/silversmith/lampworker)
never happen.

Dave Thomas 09-25-2009 07:27 PM

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This website has got a lot of good ideas when it comes to building your own small house.

There are forums with all sorts of people in different stages of building their own homesteads:

http://www.countryplans.com/

Pretty neat.

Less to insulate, less to heat, less to cool. Basically like a cooler with windows.

Rebel Yarr 09-25-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by George Spelvin (Post 1937597)

freaking dump! jeez

<SLV> 09-25-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebel Yarr (Post 1940564)
freaking dump! jeez

Agreed. Just because it is under construction doesn't mean it has to be a dump.

BoatingAccident 09-25-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by traderken (Post 1940419)
I could live in a 12'x12' shed.
I lived on a 25ft sailboat for years....
My wife on the other hand, Has way to much stuff(artist/silversmith/lampworker)
never happen.

:ok: I live on a roomy 40 foot sailboat. Roomy, meaning probably less than 200 square feet of total living space. I'm comfortable, boat's paid for, no debt. During the winter I heat the boat with oil lamps. Currently working on installing solar, and should be completely off the grid at that point.

You don't accumulate stuff when there's no place to put it. Less 'stuff' equals more freedom.

EDIT: The KEY to living comfortably in a small home is windows. Windows, windows, and more windows. When you can stand in your small home and look out and see everything going on around you, it's great. I watch sea otters playing, from my small space. All because of windows. If your home is small and cozy, being able to be a part of the nature around you is very nice.

Light 09-25-2009 09:28 PM

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I could even live in a doghouse if I was allowed to poop somewhere out in the yard.

<SLV> 09-25-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Light (Post 1940617)
I could even live in a doghouse if I was allowed to poop somewhere out in the yard.

Not in Wisconsin. If you want an outhouse it has to be designed and installed by a licensed plumber, and they won't let you have one if you have any interior plumbing.

Light 09-25-2009 09:57 PM

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I don't need an outhouse. All I need is a doghouse and a yard.

Rebel Yarr 09-26-2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1940578)
Agreed. Just because it is under construction doesn't mean it has to be a dump.

Might have something to do with all the liquor bottles crated up haha.

Tallships 09-26-2009 12:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by <slv> (Post 1929037)
I'm building a 688 square foot house for my family of six right now. I've read absolutely everything I can get my hands on regarding the tiny house movement. Unfortunately, the entire movement seems geared toward singles and couples. I've found nothing on accomodating children in a small house.


probably because if the state found out they did not each have their own room -- bigger than your whole house -- they would send the cps nazis to take them from you.
</slv>

Light 09-26-2009 12:33 AM

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Hopefully God will bless you with very tiny children.

Jimfrancisco 09-26-2009 04:58 AM

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And rightly so - the kids are being brought up wrongly. My kids were kennelled in a 40 gallon drum each until they were 12 years old. Then I moved them out to the freedom of a 1000 gallon oil tank. They'll thank me later.

<SLV> 09-26-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tallships (Post 1940921)
probably because if the state found out they did not each have their own room -- bigger than your whole house -- they would send the cps nazis to take them from you.

It is true that most municipal codes require that you put no more than 2 kids in each bedroom.
I've wondered how Thoreau's Walden eperiment wpuld have been different if it was conducted today according to building codes, zoning regulations, and environmental law.

"Simplify!"

"I'm sorry, sir. You're not allowed to."

My tiny house is going to cost me about $35k - and most of that is because of code requirements rather than my own luxurious desires.

Saul Mine 09-26-2009 05:08 PM

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FWIW my father built a 20' x 20' house and moved in with seven kids. Three beds fit around the dinner table, I and my sister slept in the living room, and two slept outside in a trailer. When I got bigger I moved into the tool shed. Dad spent ten years building a bigger house on the front of the lot, every bit of it paid for, cash and carry.

BellevueBully 09-26-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Mine (Post 1941666)
FWIW my father built a 20' x 20' house and moved in with seven kids. Three beds fit around the dinner table, I and my sister slept in the living room, and two slept outside in a trailer. When I got bigger I moved into the tool shed. Dad spent ten years building a bigger house on the front of the lot, every bit of it paid for, cash and carry.


Quite common back 50 years ago. Know a few from that era. Renovated chicken coops, sheds, whatever. Can you imagine telling a teenager today you are going to be sleeping in a tool shed??:111:

I lived 4 months in a 6 x 9 (not prison). I was building my house and lived in the shed in the back of the property. All cooking was done on a bbq or coleman camp stove, and all bathing was done in the backyard with the help of a firepit and 2 gallon galvanized pail of water. I could do that for a year if I had to, but not with the wife or kids......I'd:10_1_19:

S_Goldberg 09-26-2009 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1929037)
I'm building a 688 square foot house for my family of six right now. I've read absolutely everything I can get my hands on regarding the tiny house movement. Unfortunately, the entire movement seems geared toward singles and couples. I've found nothing on accomodating children in a small house.

Please tell me you are joking. The reason you haven't found anything is because 6 people require more space than 688 square feet to live comfortably.

<SLV> 09-26-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by S_Goldberg (Post 1941740)
Please tell me you are joking. The reason you haven't found anything is because 6 people require more space than 688 square feet.

Not joking. The actual garage is 528 square feet, the rest is a lean-to on one side that will house a utility room and small reading nook.

I'll start a thread in a couple weeks that will include 3D models to demonstrate feasibility.

I am planning on adding a second garage to double the floor space a few years later. I am designing the epansion to accomodate my four daughters through their teen years, and then later it will function as an apartment for my aging parents. This is why I am building it on a heated slab with handicap accessibility. It will make more sense when you see the drawings.

<SLV> 09-26-2009 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Mine (Post 1941666)
FWIW my father built a 20' x 20' house and moved in with seven kids. Three beds fit around the dinner table, I and my sister slept in the living room, and two slept outside in a trailer. When I got bigger I moved into the tool shed. Dad spent ten years building a bigger house on the front of the lot, every bit of it paid for, cash and carry.

That is why I am building something so small - I want to pay cash for everything. I'm building what I can afford (I hope). But laws and codes have nearly made it impossible for the average person to build a home without a loan.

We do have 5.25 acres, so even though the house is so small we will actually have lots of room for "living".

buff01 09-26-2009 08:24 PM

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I'm a House fan, but I'm not exactly tiny!

http://pinstripebindi.files.wordpres...2/housemd1.jpg

Rebel Yarr 09-26-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1941752)
Not joking. The actual garage is 528 square feet, the rest is a lean-to on one side that will house a utility room and small reading nook.

I'll start a thread in a couple weeks that will include 3D models to demonstrate feasibility.

I am planning on adding a second garage to double the floor space a few years later. I am designing the expansion to accommodate my four daughters through their teen years, and then later it will function as an apartment for my aging parents. This is why I am building it on a heated slab with handicap accessibility. It will make more sense when you see the drawings.

First off, bless you for having 4 daughters and possibly 6 women under your roof.

I must admit, I can not imagine 600 sq ft total living area. But, I remember some of your past posts on the topic - you know your needs and have done your research.

I am planning to build a "workshop" on 5/10 acres sometime...and plan to have a pole building built of around 2000 sq ft for anywhere between 25 and 50k. I will "finish out" 500 sq ft or so of it at a time..but have all the electrical/plumbing in place at the time it is built. A 1 bathroom workshop is a lot less taxes here than a 1 bath house. I'm figuring 100k for building/land. By doing this I see no real need to sacrifice space and I can add rooms as I want.


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<SLV> 09-26-2009 09:45 PM

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I seriously considered doing a 16' high pole barn and finishing one end as a two-story house. Someone down the road from me has done the same, but they refuse to talk to me about it (no permits?). Ultimately it was going to prove costly, so I needed to make the pole building a future project. If I'm lucky I'll be as well outfitted as TNandy before I die!

tanner12oz 09-28-2009 08:00 PM

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look up tumbleweed homes


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